RE: Side Scrollers and 3D..... Stay in your territories, please.

["Idahosa I. Edokpayi" <stealth_ninja@geocities.com>]

Well, I think what you are having problems with is the fact that we
currently don't have very good ways of controlling 3D movement. Game Play is
very dependent on the way the controls respond and 2D games control very
well and many 3D games. (FPS are an exception since they make such excellent
use of mouse and keyboard) Another interesting point one can make is that 2D
games actually are more beautiful to look at since they devote more resource
to pretty artwork. 3D games use up many of the resources that would normally
be devoted to colorful graphics. 3D game easily beat 2D games in realism
though. 3D is here to stay and I warn you the next great ground breaking
game in 3D will be the first non-FPS to find a good way to control movement
in 3D.

Idahosa Edokpayi

-----Original Message-----
From: gameprogrammer-owner@gameprogrammer.com
[mailto:gameprogrammer-owner@gameprogrammer.com]On Behalf Of Matthew
Kodatsky
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:12 AM
To: gameprogrammer@gameprogrammer.com
Subject: Re: Side Scrollers and 3D..... Stay in your territories,
please.


Hi There,

        I would just like to say that I completely Agree with what your
saying.  3D games arent as great as they are hyped up to be.  Dont get me
wrong, there are some good 3D games out there, but in most cases, it ruins
the game play.  I think most 2D games were the best.  RPG/Adventure games
are only good in 2D as are most other games.  3D is really not that
practical unless its an easy to play world. Until Virtual Reality games
become existent, 3D will be lacking in many areas I think.  Virtual reality
would be the only way to give the player the actual feeling of being in the
game world like thr 2D ones did.

            Matt

>     I must open my gaping mouth again on another topic: Why are side
> scrollers a thing of the past? Does 3D really replace it, or just make
more
> pretty pictures for pubescent kids to gawk at on their playstation? I
think
> side scrollers are getting a bad rap. As a matter of fact, with the
exception
> of some sims (like Shooters, FlightSims, Racing), I think the side
scrollers
> are more fun. I think 3D has killed off a lot of play content  with
adventure
> games like mario. RPG, ok. If the pretty pictures don't screw up the
> gameplay, fine.
>     Mario 64 just doesn't stand up to Mario 3 when it comes to fun and
> exploration. 3D killed mario, and a lot of hope for explore/adventure
games.
> I haven't seen one yet that really puts up a fight. (Some decent ones, I
> admit.).    I'm sick of seeing lara croft mysteriously disappear behind a
> wall and the camera doing nothing but flopping around until it finds a
crazy,
> useless camera position somewhere by her right shoulder. Playing 3D games
on
> a 2D screen is a pain in the rear anyway. (Unless you have 3D glasses,
then
> knock yourself out!)
>
> Side scrollers are a genere, not a thing of the past. I wish we'd treat it
> that way.
>
> Thank you, and don't laugh at my belief TOO much. (;
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