Re: GRIPES!

["Tommi Pirinen" <tommi.pirinen@dlc.fi>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Burgess <andrewjb@padd.press.net>
To: <gameprogrammer@gameprogrammer.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: GRIPES!


> okay, i didn't want to add to this growing list of 'GRIPES!' emails, but i
> just have to know:
> what *is* JR? apart from as in ewing, of course...
Junior. Hehe. ;)
> and, assuming it's in a foreign language, what language is it in? and
what's
> the translation?
> *shrugs* not really important... just interested.
>
> thanks,
> andy
>
> --
>
> Andy Burgess, Software Engineer.
> Information Systems Production Software - 'PA' Listings.
> eMail: andrewjb@padd.press.net
> Phone: (01430) 488 224
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Luis Fernando Talero <frega007@col1.telecom.com.co>
> To: <gameprogrammer@gameprogrammer.com>
> Cc: <kamel@nolimits-online.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: GRIPES!
>
>
>
>
>
> >Hey Justin,
> >
> >When I suscribed to this group I did it because it says it is "especially
> >tolerant of beginners" so if you  are so expert then what the heck are
you
> >doing here? Why don´t you just live?
> >Nobody stays where don´t like to stay. Besides, if I was so expert and
> >powerfull as you (better, as you want to make us belive but "eyes we see
> but
> >don´t hearts") I´ll choose between two paths:
> >
> >1. Just live (Hey, I really recommend this for you, for you don´t to stop
> >your growing to become a deidity) or
> >2. Stay and just help people without to be saying !Hey, is here anybody
so
> >good as me, cause.. this is so boring....
> >
> >
> >Justin, nothing personal, just don´t make us all thing you are some kind
of
> >stupid chatterbox (even if you are, please, don´t let us know)
> >
> >I agree with a couple of people when they say that a mailing list or a
> >newsgroup must be the last resource to find the solution of a hard
problem,
> >but, if you can´t find the answer and have finished your resources, even
> for
> >the simplest problem, you have to go there. Do you go to the librarian
just
> >to resolve the hyper-unknow questions? Then let me tell you you are
loosing
> >a big part of the good stuff, my little.
> >
> >Another thing, it´s well know that you can find any info if you go and
buy
> a
> >good book, but do you allways have the money to buy it? If so, I really
> >congratulate you because you are very fortunate and one of the few that
can
> >do that, but you must tink that this list is worldwide, here are people
> from
> >French, Germany, southamerica, etc, and no all of them (of us will be
> >better) have this capability. Personally, I work on the day and study at
> >night and it´s for me and for my classmates (they do the same) a big
effort
> >just to get the time to study the lessons so, wich is the problem if I
use
> >this list to resolve some doubts I couldn´t resolve?. For example, lets
say
> >that I ask you if you know what is JR? Don´t you know, DON´T YU KNOW?
Whow,
> >maybe it´s because it´s not an american acronym. So, I ask myself: How is
> >that there is any JUSTIN who doesn´t know what is JR games? It´s
> >umbelievable!!!!
> >
> >I´m tired now, of all of this, of people like you Justin and the worst is
> >that every day most people seems to be the same: just with their outlook,
> >nobody else does exist. This people vision of the world isn´t, it´s just
> its
> >vision of their neighborhood or friends.
> >
> >Ok, Justin. I hope this message works for something on you, you should
not
> >overestimate the newbies because, as Karmel Serend says, every one of us
> had
> >been one.
> >
> >And finally, for every one of the mailing list, how comes that some of
you
> >have feelt the need to post your data - an even the qualifications - just
> >because some don´t-know-who asked for it? Think, my little brothers,
> >think.... but with your head and not with your pride
> >
> >Bye
> >
> >PS: Justin, I have never hear of you in any important game... hum hum...
> >strange, isn´t it? for such a big mouth... hum hum
> >Thanks to Kamel Serend for to give me - without knowing it- the
> inspiration.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: justin howard <lordjuz@Hotmail.com>
> >To: gameprogrammer@gameprogrammer.com <gameprogrammer@gameprogrammer.com>
> >Date: Martes, 07 de Septiembre de 1999 08:37 a.m.
> >Subject: GRIPES!
> >
> >
> >>When I joined this list I was assuming a few things and that I may even
> get
> >>some help from some of you...
> >>Ive got a few questions for (almost) ALL OF YOU...
> >>
> >>1) Have any of you got a degree, Software Engineering or Computer
Science?
> >>
> >>2) What kind of game programmer doesnt know what RTS and RPG mean?
> >>
> >>3) Why are peopole answering messages with a "Im sorry I cant help"?
> >>   Surely if you cant help there is no point answering is there!
> >>
> >>4) I was wondering what the average time trying to nut out your own
> >problems
> >>is, I have an ssumption it is less than 5 minutes.
> >>
> >>5) Have any of you even completed high school maths(to those younger
> ignore
> >>this one).
> >>
> >>
> >>Im sorry that some of you got this when you dont deserve it.
> >>
> >>For those who are still learning the VERY BASICS, its easier to learn
from
> >a
> >>tutorial somewhere on the net.
> >>
> >>Ok off of gripes,
> >>I was wondering ...
> >>
> >>1) how many people on this list have ever been employed by a game
> >>Development company cause im interested...
> >>
> >>2) and how many are currently working on serious projects or working as
a
> >>team on something.
> >>
> >>------
> >>thanx for listening
> >>And happy programming
> >>
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